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			<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:32:24 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>brandshoesvip.com As its name indicates, brandshoesvip.com provides you a variety of shoes with all the different brands available. If boys, you still don’t...</description>
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			<title>Billing weirdness...</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:35:09 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Ever since I left VZW I've received monthly notices that my bill is 
ready to view online.  When I click on the link, I log on* and find my 
bill in all it's...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Ever since I left VZW I've received monthly notices that my bill is <br />
ready to view online.  When I click on the link, I log on* and find my <br />
bill in all it's detail for $0.00.  A few days later I receive a paper <br />
bill showing $0.00.<br />
<br />
This somehow doesn't seem very practical/logical/efficient?<br />
<br />
<br />
*I have to log on using my user name as I no longer have a VZW phone <br />
number.<br />
<br />
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-- <br />
XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups<br />
The Usenet Improvement Project:<br />
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			<title><![CDATA["a new cosmology"]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:30:22 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA["a new cosmology"

Fitzpatrick offers us a new cosmology that solves a lot of problems:

We know something epochal happened 10 to 15 billion years ago...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>&quot;a new cosmology&quot;<br />
<br />
Fitzpatrick offers us a new cosmology that solves a lot of problems:<br />
<br />
We know something epochal happened 10 to 15 billion years ago because<br />
of the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation (CMBR).<br />
<br />
(click link):<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.amperefitz.com/fitzcos.htm" target="_blank">http://www.amperefitz.com/fitzcos.htm</a><br />
<br />
Science!<br />
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			<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:52:26 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Here, you can find all the sports shoes of different brands. Just click to see what it offers to you, you will find all the shoes here are fashionable and are...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Here, you can find all the sports shoes of different brands. Just click to see what it offers to you, you will find all the shoes here are fashionable and are of good qualify. What's more, the price of the shoes I think can surely be accepted by you, because it is just reasonable and much cheaper than you buy in real shops. I recommend you to have a good look at all the shoes before you decide to buy. If you like a specific brand, such as Jordan, you can click into and choose from the many different styles and colors of each pair of shoes. Expect for the brand of Jordan, you can also find such brands as Nike, Supra, Reebok, Adidas and so on. You can choose them as you wish. I think this is a really good place for you to buy shoes. Boys usually like shoes with a good brand. Here in the web can just make all the boys satisfied.</div>

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			<title><![CDATA["a new cosmology"]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 03:47:36 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA["a new cosmology"

Fitzpatrick offers us a new cosmology that solves a lot of problems:

We know something epochal happened 10 to 15 billion years ago...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>&quot;a new cosmology&quot;<br />
<br />
Fitzpatrick offers us a new cosmology that solves a lot of problems:<br />
<br />
We know something epochal happened 10 to 15 billion years ago because<br />
of the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation (CMBR).<br />
<br />
(click link):<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.amperefitz.com/fitzcos.htm" target="_blank">http://www.amperefitz.com/fitzcos.htm</a><br />
<br />
Science!<br />
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			<title>Re: NEWS: Up to 2 years for even small panel cell antennas to be approved in San Francisco</title>
			<link>http://www.mobile-forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=101578&amp;goto=newpost</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 03:46:56 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:03:49 -0700, John Navas
<spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:

>It turns out Steve Jobs wasn't exaggerating all that much when he said
>it...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:03:49 -0700, John Navas<br />
&gt; wrote:<br />
<font color="blue"><i><br />
&gt;It turns out Steve Jobs wasn't exaggerating all that much when he said<br />
&gt;it can take three years to get a cell tower approved in San Francisco.</i></font><br />
<br />
I think maybe you and everybody should move out of San Francisco. They<br />
are charging 3 bucks to go through the financial distist now.  They<br />
want money and are coming up with fees and taxes that I have never<br />
heard anybody trying.  Yes , Concord wants to raise sales taxes again,<br />
but every city seems to that. But San francisco is Special (Too<br />
Someone)<br />
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			<title>Re: NEWS: Up to 2 years for even small panel cell antennas to be approved in San Francisco</title>
			<link>http://www.mobile-forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=101577&amp;goto=newpost</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 03:46:56 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:03:49 -0700, John Navas
<spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:

>It turns out Steve Jobs wasn't exaggerating all that much when he said
>it...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:03:49 -0700, John Navas<br />
&gt; wrote:<br />
<font color="blue"><i><br />
&gt;It turns out Steve Jobs wasn't exaggerating all that much when he said<br />
&gt;it can take three years to get a cell tower approved in San Francisco.</i></font><br />
<br />
I think maybe you and everybody should move out of San Francisco. They<br />
are charging 3 bucks to go through the financial distist now.  They<br />
want money and are coming up with fees and taxes that I have never<br />
heard anybody trying.  Yes , Concord wants to raise sales taxes again,<br />
but every city seems to that. But San francisco is Special (Too<br />
Someone)<br />
<br />
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			<title><![CDATA["a new cosmology"]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:23:21 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA["a new cosmology"

Fitzpatrick offers us a new cosmology that solves a lot of problems:

We know something epochal happened 10 to 15 billion years ago...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>&quot;a new cosmology&quot;<br />
<br />
Fitzpatrick offers us a new cosmology that solves a lot of problems:<br />
<br />
We know something epochal happened 10 to 15 billion years ago because<br />
of the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation (CMBR).<br />
<br />
(click link):<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.amperefitz.com/fitzcos.htm" target="_blank">http://www.amperefitz.com/fitzcos.htm</a><br />
<br />
Science!<br />
<br />
<br />
</div>

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			<dc:creator>fitz</dc:creator>
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			<title>Re: Verizon Set to Switch to Tiered Data Pricing?</title>
			<link>http://www.mobile-forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=101574&amp;goto=newpost</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:32:58 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Dave Rudisill <denali@alaska.net> wrote:
>>Janet Wilder <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>>Can someone please tell me what "hot spot" is?  I just got my new...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Dave Rudisill &gt; wrote:<font color="blue"><i><font color="green"><i><br />
&gt;&gt;Janet Wilder &gt; wrote:</i></font><br />
&gt; <font color="green"><i><br />
&gt;&gt;Can someone please tell me what &quot;hot spot&quot; is?  I just got my new HTC <br />
&gt;&gt;Incredible this weekend and there is nothing on my billing program about <br />
&gt;&gt;hot spots. I have unlimited internet and email and 250 text, photo, etc. <br />
&gt;&gt;messages per month for $5. Other than insurance (because this is an <br />
&gt;&gt;expensive phone), and my monthly minute plan, that's all that is there.</i></font><br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; The Droid X has an optional feature that turns the phone into a<br />
&gt; Wi-Fi hitspot, just like one you might see in a campgound,<br />
&gt; Starbucks, Barnes &amp; Noble, etc. It costs $20/mo for 2 GB. This is<br />
&gt; in addition to the $29.99/mo required data plan that Verizon has<br />
&gt; on all smartphones.<br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; The Palm Pre Plus has the same feature, but it's free and allows<br />
&gt; 5 GB per month.<br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; So far, those are the only two Verizon phones to offer the mobile<br />
&gt; hotspot feature. It is rumored that it will be available on the<br />
&gt; Incredible soon.<br />
&gt; </i></font><br />
<br />
The 2.2 update should bring it to ALL android based phones that recieve it<br />
unless Verizon has the firmware modified [which they are known to do].  It is<br />
a simple matter to get into the phones and do what you want [thanks to the<br />
open nature of Android OS], but I don't recommend it if you value your phone<br />
and warrantee [messing up can have unpleasant side effects and the old &quot;say<br />
you lost the phone and get a new one if you have insurance&quot; is insurance fraud<br />
and could be prosecuted as a felony, although likely it wouldn't be even if<br />
they found out].<br />
<br />
-- <br />
Thomas T. Veldhouse<br />
<br />
  Religion is a crutch, but that's okay... humanity is a cripple.<br />
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			<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas T. Veldhouse[_2_]]]></dc:creator>
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			<title>Re: Verizon Set to Switch to Tiered Data Pricing?</title>
			<link>http://www.mobile-forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=101573&amp;goto=newpost</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:29:16 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Janet Wilder <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote:
> David wrote:
>> Janet Wilder <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Janet Wilder &gt; wrote:<font color="blue"><i><br />
&gt; David wrote:<font color="green"><i><br />
&gt;&gt; Janet Wilder &gt; wrote in<br />
&gt;&gt; : <br />
&gt;&gt; <font color="darkred"><i><br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; Can someone please tell me what &quot;hot spot&quot; is?  I just got my new HTC <br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; Incredible this weekend and there is nothing on my billing program<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; about hot spots. I have unlimited internet and email and 250 text,<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; photo, etc. messages per month for $5. Other than insurance (because<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; this is an expensive phone), and my monthly minute plan, that's all<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; that is there. </i></font><br />
&gt;&gt; <br />
&gt;&gt; The &quot;hot spot&quot; or &quot;tethering&quot; feature allow you to use your cellphone's <br />
&gt;&gt; internet access with other devices like a laptop computer or ipod. While <br />
&gt;&gt; they are basically the same thing, tethering is usually restricted to one <br />
&gt;&gt; device at a time like a modem, whereas a hotspot usually allows multiple <br />
&gt;&gt; devices at the same time like a router. If you have devices besides your <br />
&gt;&gt; phone that you want to use on the net and you don't have wifi access <br />
&gt;&gt; everywhere, its a really handy feature.  If not, its not something you'd <br />
&gt;&gt; need to worry about.<br />
&gt;&gt; <br />
&gt;&gt; If its not listed on your bill, you probably don't have it turned on. Its <br />
&gt;&gt; free with my Palm Pre Plus, but it is still listed as a feature on my bill, <br />
&gt;&gt; and I had to specificially ask that it be turned on when I got the phone. <br />
&gt;&gt; I'm not sure what, if any, charges there are for the feature on other <br />
&gt;&gt; Verizon phones.</i></font><br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; Thanks for the information.  My phone came with a disk like the old <br />
&gt; mobile office kit used to come with. It's for tethering the phone to a <br />
&gt; computer. I didn't bother to load it as I generally travel with a <br />
&gt; netbook because I keep a travel diary and there is no way I'm gonna use <br />
&gt; the phone's teeny keyboard for that!  If I do load it, it will be into <br />
&gt; the netbook which makes more sense than loading it into the desk top.<br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; I'm the only one here who uses computers and I don't play the on-line <br />
&gt; stuff with my Ninetendo DS, so I don't see a need to become a hot spot.<br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; I really appreciate your taking the time to answer my question.  Thanks.<br />
&gt; </i></font><br />
<br />
I believe the Incredible supports tethering via USB only [unless the phone is<br />
modded].<br />
<br />
-- <br />
Thomas T. Veldhouse<br />
<br />
  Religion is a crutch, but that's okay... humanity is a cripple.<br />
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			<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas T. Veldhouse[_2_]]]></dc:creator>
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			<title>Re: Verizon Set to Switch to Tiered Data Pricing?</title>
			<link>http://www.mobile-forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=101572&amp;goto=newpost</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:27:58 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Janet Wilder <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dave Rudisill wrote:
>>> "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy71@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't know about tether, but...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Janet Wilder &gt; wrote:<font color="blue"><i><br />
&gt; Dave Rudisill wrote:<font color="green"><i><font color="darkred"><i><br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;Thomas T. Veldhouse&quot; &gt; wrote:</i></font><br />
&gt;&gt; <font color="darkred"><i><br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; I don't know about tether, but Hotspot feature is limitted to 2GB, not 5GB.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; It does allow five WiFi clients at a time however.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;</i></font><br />
&gt;&gt; <br />
&gt;&gt; That's only for the Droid X, currently.  The Palm Pre Plus<br />
&gt;&gt; hotspot is limited to 5 GB, and it's free.<br />
&gt;&gt; </i></font><br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; Can someone please tell me what &quot;hot spot&quot; is?  I just got my new HTC <br />
&gt; Incredible this weekend and there is nothing on my billing program about <br />
&gt; hot spots. I have unlimited internet and email and 250 text, photo, etc. <br />
&gt; messages per month for $5. Other than insurance (because this is an <br />
&gt; expensive phone), and my monthly minute plan, that's all that is there.<br />
&gt; </i></font><br />
<br />
The &quot;HotSpot&quot; just means that your phone acts as a WiFi source for other<br />
devices [usually limited to five clients].  The Incredible doesn't offer this<br />
ability currently; although it may when 2.2 (Froyo) is installed as that is<br />
part of the OS unless it is crippled by Verizon [where the phone will be<br />
altered by many users and turn it back on again no doubt ... it has already<br />
been done for the Droid X and there was a report about modding the phone would<br />
result in bricking it when in fact &quot;improper&quot; modding of the phone will brick<br />
it ... having said that, I will not likely ever modify the phone beyond spec;<br />
not unless I have a backup phone I am willing to use for the long term].<br />
<br />
-- <br />
Thomas T. Veldhouse<br />
<br />
  Religion is a crutch, but that's okay... humanity is a cripple.<br />
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			<title>Re: NEWS: Apple Released Test Videos To Demonstrate Antenna Problems in Nokia, BlackBerry, HTC Droid and Samsung</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:23:17 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[In alt.cellular.verizon Thomas T. Veldhouse <veldy71@gmail.com> wrote:
> In alt.cellular.verizon John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>> On 27 Jul...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>In alt.cellular.verizon Thomas T. Veldhouse &gt; wrote:<font color="blue"><i><br />
&gt; In alt.cellular.verizon John Navas &gt; wrote:<font color="green"><i><br />
&gt;&gt; On 27 Jul 2010 15:15:39 GMT, in &gt;,<br />
&gt;&gt; &quot;Thomas T. Veldhouse&quot; &gt; wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt; <font color="darkred"><i><br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;In alt.cellular.verizon John Navas &gt; wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On 27 Jul 2010 13:39:55 GMT, in &gt;,<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;Thomas T. Veldhouse&quot; &gt; wrote:</i></font><br />
&gt;&gt; <font color="darkred"><i><br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Signal strenght<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;-82 dbM 0 asu<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; It's wrong.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;Possibly ... I know nothing about &quot;asu&quot;.  However, if I were a betting man, I<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;would bet that you are wrong just based on history.  Good thing I am not a<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;betting man.  I do like to think that they tested the software on the phone<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;such that such basic information is accurate (and this is the updated software<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;release).  I certainly can't say for certain without knowledge of what &quot;asu&quot;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;means.</i></font><br />
&gt;&gt; <br />
&gt;&gt; You might want to actually learn something about it before making a<br />
&gt;&gt; silly bad bet.  ;)</i></font><br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; I said I wouldn't make that bet, did I not?<br />
&gt; <font color="green"><i><br />
&gt;&gt; <br />
&gt;&gt; Android API returns ASU (active set updates): dBm = ASU x 2 - 113<br />
&gt;&gt; GSM Signal Strength, valid values are (0-31, 99) as defined in TS 27.007<br />
&gt;&gt; </i></font><br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; According to this definition, asu should be 16.  Seems like a link quality<br />
&gt; assessment to me.<br />
&gt; </i></font><br />
<br />
Then again, you indicate GSM signal strength as an input, how about EVDOrevA?<br />
<br />
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			<title>Re: NEWS: Apple Released Test Videos To Demonstrate Antenna Problems in Nokia, BlackBerry, HTC Droid and Samsung</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:23:17 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[In alt.cellular.verizon Thomas T. Veldhouse <veldy71@gmail.com> wrote:
> In alt.cellular.verizon John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>> On 27 Jul...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>In alt.cellular.verizon Thomas T. Veldhouse &gt; wrote:<font color="blue"><i><br />
&gt; In alt.cellular.verizon John Navas &gt; wrote:<font color="green"><i><br />
&gt;&gt; On 27 Jul 2010 15:15:39 GMT, in &gt;,<br />
&gt;&gt; &quot;Thomas T. Veldhouse&quot; &gt; wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt; <font color="darkred"><i><br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;In alt.cellular.verizon John Navas &gt; wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On 27 Jul 2010 13:39:55 GMT, in &gt;,<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;Thomas T. Veldhouse&quot; &gt; wrote:</i></font><br />
&gt;&gt; <font color="darkred"><i><br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Signal strenght<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;-82 dbM 0 asu<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; It's wrong.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;Possibly ... I know nothing about &quot;asu&quot;.  However, if I were a betting man, I<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;would bet that you are wrong just based on history.  Good thing I am not a<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;betting man.  I do like to think that they tested the software on the phone<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;such that such basic information is accurate (and this is the updated software<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;release).  I certainly can't say for certain without knowledge of what &quot;asu&quot;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;means.</i></font><br />
&gt;&gt; <br />
&gt;&gt; You might want to actually learn something about it before making a<br />
&gt;&gt; silly bad bet.  ;)</i></font><br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; I said I wouldn't make that bet, did I not?<br />
&gt; <font color="green"><i><br />
&gt;&gt; <br />
&gt;&gt; Android API returns ASU (active set updates): dBm = ASU x 2 - 113<br />
&gt;&gt; GSM Signal Strength, valid values are (0-31, 99) as defined in TS 27.007<br />
&gt;&gt; </i></font><br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; According to this definition, asu should be 16.  Seems like a link quality<br />
&gt; assessment to me.<br />
&gt; </i></font><br />
<br />
Then again, you indicate GSM signal strength as an input, how about EVDOrevA?<br />
<br />
-- <br />
Thomas T. Veldhouse<br />
<br />
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			<title>Re: NEWS: Apple sued over hot iPad shutdowns</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:11:21 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[News wrote:
> John Navas wrote:
>> Apple's iPad can shut down if it gets too hot, and Jacob Baltazar,
>> Claudia Keller, and John Browning are as mad as hell...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>News wrote:<font color="blue"><i><br />
&gt; John Navas wrote:<font color="green"><i><br />
&gt;&gt; Apple's iPad can shut down if it gets too hot, and Jacob Baltazar,<br />
&gt;&gt; Claudia Keller, and John Browning are as mad as hell and aren't going to<br />
&gt;&gt; take it anymore.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; Those unhappy iPadders have filed suit against Apple — and they're<br />
&gt;&gt; asking the court to elevate their claim to class-action status.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; Their lawsuit, filed in the US District Court, Northern District of<br />
&gt;&gt; California, alleges that &quot;the iPad overheats so quickly under common<br />
&gt;&gt; weather conditions that it does not function for prolonged use either<br />
&gt;&gt; outdoors, or in many other warm conditions.&quot;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; ...</i></font><br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; So what's the problem?  Makes a great coffee cup warmer.<br />
&gt; </i></font><br />
<br />
I worked on the Microsoft Tablet reference design and the Compaq TC1000 <br />
tablet. The thermal engineering was very difficult, much more so than a <br />
laptop. It has to work in both orientations, it has to be cool enough to <br />
hold comfortably, and it has to be quiet. The initial goal was not to <br />
have a fan, but there was no way to cool it under all possible <br />
circumstances without the occasional use of a fan, unless we lowered the <br />
processor speed to a level where the performance was severely impacted. <br />
It was a much thicker tablet with more vent holes than the iPad. When I <br />
saw the iPad I was impressed that they had been able to design it as <br />
they had and still been able to deal with all the thermal issues.<br />
<br />
There are software workarounds for thermal issues. You run the processor <br />
slower as the temperature goes up. It's not ideal, but it will work. <br />
Probably the thermal profiles need to be tuned to prevent these shutdowns.<br />
<br />
What's strange about the lawsuit is that over-temp shutdowns should be <br />
independent of the weather conditions, they should depend solely on the <br />
temperature readings from the core and other temp sensors in the unit, <br />
and a shutdown should only occur when other measures to lower the <br />
temperature have failed.<br />
<br />
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