NOKIA 6800 or MOTOROLA V60i ?

[Roy Beames]

I want a new phone , can I get your thoughts on these 2 phones. I know the
obvious on the Nokia TEXT messaging is much easier But I never have used
either ...
Also I am with Cingular right now but am considering AT&T Wireless here in
Southern Indiana.

Please respond both to the newsgroups & my

Roy Beames
E-Mail

[Georg Ten Brouck]

On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 15:23:47 -0500, "Roy Beames" >
wrote:

>I want a new phone , can I get your thoughts on these 2 phones. I know the
>obvious on the Nokia TEXT messaging is much easier But I never have used
>either ...
>Also I am with Cingular right now but am considering AT&T Wireless here in
>Southern Indiana.
>
>Please respond both to the newsgroups & my

Both of those stink.

The only good phones being sold by Cingular (on the West Coast) are:

Nokia 3600
Sony Ericsson T616
Samsun S307
Motorola T720

In Evansville, IL (where your ISP is located), they also have the Nokia
6340i, which is a great phone.

[InvaderZim]

Working for Mercedes, which uses the V60, DO NOT GET THE V60. Sorry, it is a
piece of sh*t. The 6800 I have now seems to be ok, but then I am with AT&T.

--
"Only the dead have seen the end of war" Plato

InvaderZim
"Roy Beames" > wrote in message
news:3f4a703f$1_4@newsfeed...
> I want a new phone , can I get your thoughts on these 2 phones. I know the
> obvious on the Nokia TEXT messaging is much easier But I never have used
> either ...
> Also I am with Cingular right now but am considering AT&T Wireless here in
> Southern Indiana.
>
> Please respond both to the newsgroups & my
>
> Roy Beames
> E-Mail
>
>

[0¿0]

the v60i and its predecessor hte v60 have the same weakness... that little
stubby antenna tends to snap off... and that is not covered by warranty..
insurance will cover it at a 35 bux deductable

nokia in this case is a better choice... the 6800 is GSM/GPRS while the v60
is TDMA


"Roy Beames" > wrote in message
news:3f4a703f$1_4@newsfeed...
> I want a new phone , can I get your thoughts on these 2 phones. I know the
> obvious on the Nokia TEXT messaging is much easier But I never have used
> either ...
> Also I am with Cingular right now but am considering AT&T Wireless here in
> Southern Indiana.
>
> Please respond both to the newsgroups & my
>
> Roy Beames
> E-Mail
>
>

[D.J. Osborn]

"0¿0" > wrote:

> the v60i and its predecessor hte v60 have the same weakness... that little
> stubby antenna tends to snap off... and that is not covered by warranty..
> insurance will cover it at a 35 bux deductable

My v60i antenna has never snapped off (nor have the antennas on the v60i
phones of my other family members). If it does, then I'll just go to Radio
Shack and get a new antenna for about $10.00.

> nokia in this case is a better choice... the 6800 is GSM/GPRS while the
v60
> is TDMA

I've read rpeorts that the Nokias' performance on CDMA is somewhat lacking,
and so--based upon our excellent experiences with the v60i phones--I'd
definitely recommend it for anyone.
--
D.J., N8DO; FMCA 147762
davidjosborn at sbcglobal dot net

[Mark.]

> > nokia in this case is a better choice... the 6800 is GSM/GPRS while the
> v60
> > is TDMA

> I've read rpeorts that the Nokias' performance on CDMA is somewhat
lacking,

GSM/GPRS is not CDMA technology. However, GSM is superior to TDMA in my
opinion.

[NRG]

You just have to think you have to choose a Ferrari(Nokia) or a
Toyota(Motorola). What do you choose? NOKIA is superior in ANY way from
Motorola.It has tradition on making mobile phones :) !>>this is my
personal opinion<<!

"Mark." <m.nikia#optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
u...
> > > nokia in this case is a better choice... the 6800 is GSM/GPRS while
the
> > v60
> > > is TDMA
>
> > I've read rpeorts that the Nokias' performance on CDMA is somewhat
> lacking,
>
> GSM/GPRS is not CDMA technology. However, GSM is superior to TDMA in my
> opinion.
>
>

[jerry]

"0¿0" > wrote in message >...
> the v60i and its predecessor hte v60 have the same weakness... that little
> stubby antenna tends to snap off... and that is not covered by warranty..
> insurance will cover it at a 35 bux deductable
>
> nokia in this case is a better choice... the 6800 is GSM/GPRS while the v60
> is TDMA
>
>
> "Roy Beames" > wrote in message
> news:3f4a703f$1_4@newsfeed...
> > I want a new phone , can I get your thoughts on these 2 phones. I know the
> > obvious on the Nokia TEXT messaging is much easier But I never have used
> > either ...
> > Also I am with Cingular right now but am considering AT&T Wireless here in
> > Southern Indiana.
> >
> > Please respond both to the newsgroups & my
> >
> > Roy Beames
> > E-Mail
> >
> >
never have broken ant on my v60i.

[Al Klein]

On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:13:55 GMT, "NRG" > posted in
alt.cellular.motorola:

>You just have to think you have to choose a Ferrari(Nokia) or a
>Toyota(Motorola). What do you choose? NOKIA is superior in ANY way from
>Motorola.

Except in CDMA.
--
Al - rukbat at optonline dot net

[Martin Crosbie]

"Al Klein" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:13:55 GMT, "NRG" > posted in
> alt.cellular.motorola:
>
> >You just have to think you have to choose a Ferrari(Nokia) or a
> >Toyota(Motorola). What do you choose? NOKIA is superior in ANY way from
> >Motorola.
>
> Except in CDMA.

Motorola has often being accused of being the largest supplier in the US,
but fairing badly in the rest of the world. for nokia, it's the other way
around. GSM is the dominant technology Globally, but the US is hanging on to
half a dozen other networks in an attempt to keep some coverage. The US has
a worse cellular coverage than the UK has broadband coverage.

The choice often comes down to where you live, and so what networks are
available. if you must go CDMA/TDMA, you might get better performance with a
Moto, otherwise go nokia and GSM.

Martin Crosbie

[Al Klein]

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 02:48:36 +0100, "Martin Crosbie"
> posted in
alt.cellular.motorola:

>The choice often comes down to where you live, and so what networks are
>available. if you must go CDMA/TDMA, you might get better performance with a
>Moto, otherwise go nokia and GSM.

GSM currently has very little coverage in the US.
--
Al - rukbat at optonline dot net

[Martin Crosbie]

"Al Klein" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 02:48:36 +0100, "Martin Crosbie"
> > posted in
> alt.cellular.motorola:
>
> >The choice often comes down to where you live, and so what networks are
> >available. if you must go CDMA/TDMA, you might get better performance
with a
> >Moto, otherwise go nokia and GSM.
>
> GSM currently has very little coverage in the US.

But GSM has the vast majority of coverage in the rest of the world.

My point above is that if you can go GSM, if your locality is covered by the
GSM net, then go for nokia, but if you have to go with other technologies,
then the Motorola is probably the better option.

Martin Crosbie

[Tim Smoot]

I live in southern Michigan. I have AT&T they are the worst wireless company
I ever had. They lost a lot of towers that they had so now my phone doesn't
work is a lot of areas that it worked in before. I tried to get out of my
contract because I can't use my phone in the areas that I work in. They will
only let me out if I pay the 175.00 cancellation fee. It hardly seems fair
if the coverage area is smaller that I still have to pay the cancellation
fee. AT&T says they can change the coverage area any time.
Also many time when I try to call out the network is to busy to make a call.
A lot of time when someone tries to call me the phone never rings and goes
directly to voice mail or it tells them that I am not answering my phone.
Ever time I call customer service I get the run around. I spend hours every
week talking to them trying to resolve these problems.
But they never fix and of them.
"Roy Beames" > wrote in message
news:3f4a703f$1_4@newsfeed...
> I want a new phone , can I get your thoughts on these 2 phones. I know the
> obvious on the Nokia TEXT messaging is much easier But I never have used
> either ...
> Also I am with Cingular right now but am considering AT&T Wireless here in
> Southern Indiana.
>
> Please respond both to the newsgroups & my
>
> Roy Beames
> E-Mail
>
>

[Jer]

Tim Smoot wrote:
> I live in southern Michigan. I have AT&T they are the worst wireless company
> I ever had. They lost a lot of towers that they had ...


Their maps don't work too good for them either, huh?


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what we know." -- Richard Wilbur

[Martin Crosbie]

"Tim Smoot" > wrote in message
...
> I live in southern Michigan. I have AT&T they are the worst wireless
company
> I ever had. They lost a lot of towers that they had so now my phone
doesn't
> work is a lot of areas that it worked in before.

How can they lose towers? The US network is poor as it is, so why on earth
would they reduce their coverage? it makes no sense. is it common for
service areas to change like this?

Martin Crosbie

[Tim Smoot]

They were leasing towers from other companies. When the least ran out the
company would not release them the towers.
"Martin Crosbie" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Tim Smoot" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I live in southern Michigan. I have AT&T they are the worst wireless
> company
> > I ever had. They lost a lot of towers that they had so now my phone
> doesn't
> > work is a lot of areas that it worked in before.
>
> How can they lose towers? The US network is poor as it is, so why on earth
> would they reduce their coverage? it makes no sense. is it common for
> service areas to change like this?
>
> Martin Crosbie
>
>

[bg]

I have the local TDMA Digital Advantage here in Tennessee. We're getting all
circuits busy here, too and GSM in this area is not yet fully functional. I
think we have fewer channels here, too. It used to better. We may switch
after our commit time is up.

-Bud


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[Tim Smoot]

Good news, They finally let me out of my contract and I don't have to pay
the 175.00 fee.
I am going with Alltel they have great coverage in Michigan.
They also have good deals for there national plan.


"Tim Smoot" > wrote in message
...
> They were leasing towers from other companies. When the least ran out the
> company would not release them the towers.
> "Martin Crosbie" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Tim Smoot" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I live in southern Michigan. I have AT&T they are the worst wireless
> > company
> > > I ever had. They lost a lot of towers that they had so now my phone
> > doesn't
> > > work is a lot of areas that it worked in before.
> >
> > How can they lose towers? The US network is poor as it is, so why on
earth
> > would they reduce their coverage? it makes no sense. is it common for
> > service areas to change like this?
> >
> > Martin Crosbie
> >
> >
>
>

[Al Klein]

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:50:22 -0400, "Tim Smoot" >
posted in alt.cellular.motorola:

>I live in southern Michigan. I have AT&T they are the worst wireless company
>I ever had. They lost a lot of towers that they had so now my phone doesn't
>work is a lot of areas that it worked in before. I tried to get out of my
>contract because I can't use my phone in the areas that I work in. They will
>only let me out if I pay the 175.00 cancellation fee. It hardly seems fair
>if the coverage area is smaller that I still have to pay the cancellation
>fee. AT&T says they can change the coverage area any time.

Does Michigan have a warrantee of marketability? If it does AT&T may
be violating it for you, and your contract may be void. (If it's
void, it doesn't exist, so there wouldn't be any fee to "get out of
it".)

>Also many time when I try to call out the network is to busy to make a call.

There's nothing we can do about that. There's no guarantee of time of
service.

>A lot of time when someone tries to call me the phone never rings and goes
>directly to voice mail or it tells them that I am not answering my phone.

Same problem - no more slots available in any cell you can reach.

>Ever time I call customer service I get the run around. I spend hours every
>week talking to them trying to resolve these problems.

The only legitimate problem you've posted is the change in coverage.
Check your state out for a warrantee of marketability. Check with
your state Attorney General's office.
--
Al - rukbat at optonline dot net

[Al Klein]

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:35:35 -0400, "Tim Smoot" >
posted in alt.cellular.motorola:

>Good news, They finally let me out of my contract and I don't have to pay
>the 175.00 fee.

Ignore my previous post. :)

And congratulations.
--
Al - rukbat at optonline dot net